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A name goes a long way

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This past week the blogs resident Big 10 homer known as zeekgeek and I had our daily conversation about college football instead of working at our job as usual.  The topic of conversation this week was the fact that if you are an old well known college for college football and you win.  Then your win most likely will mean more to voters than other conference mates or rivals.  This was intriguing to me because I felt the same way as zeekgeek but I really didn’t have the facts to confirm or deny his claim that was made. 

So I decided to check out the NCAA Division IA all time victory list. 

1. Michigan: 872-297-38
2. Texas: 832-320-34
3. Notre Dame: 831-285-42
4. Nebraska: 827-337-41
5. Ohio State: 808-306-53
6. Penn State 801-349-43
7. Alabama: 799-316-43
8. Oklahoma: 788-300-53
9. Tennessee: 776-327-55
10. USC: 765-303-54

It’s important to notice that Texas is number 2 on the list.  No reason but to rub it in the face of all the people out there that don’ t like Texas.  Ha.

Moving on, I will give you one more look at the Top 25 this week, and to be fair.  Week 4 of ever year past for the last 5 years.

Week 4, Season 09 (8 of the 10 are in the top 25) (5 of the 8 have a loss by week 4) (3 of the 5 that have losses are still in the top 10 in the nation)

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. LSU
5. Boise State
6.Virginia Tech
7. USC
8. Oklahoma
9. Ohio State
10. Cincinnati
11. TCU
12. Houston
13. Iowa
14. Oklahoma State
15. Penn State
16. Oregon
17. Miami
18. Kansas
19. Georgia
20. BYU
21. Ole Miss
22. Michigan
23. Nebraska
24. California
25. Georgia Tech


Week 4, Season 08 (6 of the 10 are in the top 25) (1 of the 6 have a loss by week 4) (2 of the 5 are in the top 5 in the nation)

1. USC
2. Oklahoma
3. Georgia
4. Florida
5. Missouri
6. LSU
7. Texas
8. Wisconsin
9. Alabama
10. Auburn
11. Texas Tech
12. South Florida
13. Ohio State
14. BYU
15. East Carolina
16. Penn State
17. Oregon
18. Wake Forest
19. Kansas
20. Utah
21.West Virgina
22. Illinois
23. Clemson
24. Florida State
25. Fresno State


Week 4, Season 07 (7 of the 10 are in the top 25) (2 of the 7 have a loss by week 4) (0 of the 2 that have losses are still in the top 10 in the nation)

1. USC
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. Florida
5. West Virgina
6. California
7. Texas
8. Ohio State
9. Wisconsin
10. Rutgers
11. Oregon
12. BC
13. Clemson
14. Kentucky
15. Georgia
16. South Carolina
17. Virginia Tech
18. South Carolina
19. Hawaii
20. Missouri
21. Penn State
22. Alabama
23. Arizona State
24. Cincinnati
25. Nebraska


Week 4, Season 06 (8 of the 10 are in the top 25) (5 of the 8 have a loss by week 4) (4 of the 5 that have losses are still in the top 16 in the nation)

1. Ohio State
2. Auburn
3. USC
4. West Virginia
5. Florida
6. Michigan
7. Texas
8. Louisville
9. LSU
10. Georgia
11. Virginia Tech
12. Notre Dame
13. Iowa
14. Oregon
15. Tennessee
16. Oklahoma
17. TCU
18. Clemson
19. Florida
20. California
21. Nebraska
22. Boise State
23. Rutgers
24. Georgia Tech
25. Missouri 


Week 4, Season 05 (6 of the 10 are in the top 25) (3 of the 6 have a loss by week 4) (2 of the 3 that have losses are still in the top 10 in the nation)

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Virginia Tech
4. LSU
5. Florida
6. Florida State
7. Georgia 
8. Ohio State
9. Miami (FL)
10. Tennessee
11. Michigan State
12. California
13. Notre Dame
14. Arizona State 
15. Alabama
16. Texas Tech
17. Wisconsin
18. Minnesota
19. Virginia
20. UCLA
21. BC
22. Purdue
23. Iowa State
24. Louisville
25. Georgia Tech


Well I have to say that in the results I was a bit surprised.  I am unsure if going back 5 years if far enough back to confirm or deny the claim that was made.  One thing is for sure, is this time last year and the years before that at least 6 of those 10 have been in the top 25.  And atleast 2 in the top 5.


Written by Jon Castano

September 29, 2009 at 9:18 pm

Posted in Commentary

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  1. Interesting. But, I think that what would be REALLY interesting (and perhaps indicative of what a name can do for you) would be to look at how many of those teams were in the top-25 in the preseason polls and where they finished at the end of the season. Some of these teams are just hands down perennial powerhouses. For teams like USC, OSU, Florida, Texas and others, a nine-win season is a down year. I’d love to see where these teams start and where they finish. I think it’d help to get at the root of whose name is helping them the most.

    And I think I know who it’ll be…

    Austin Swafford

    September 29, 2009 at 10:02 pm

  2. Good stuff, Jon, and good point as well, Austin.

    I have been very curious about another possibly interesting statistic for quite some time as well… what is the median change in ranking for any given team after a win or loss? It could be narrowed to some interesting qualifiers also: After a win/loss to a top-25 team? To a top-5 team? At home or on the road? In week one? In week 10? I’ve never had the patience to sit down and work all that out, but maybe I’ll see if I can start to put something together.


    September 30, 2009 at 12:01 am

    • Very interesting, and part of what I was getting at with my comments about USC on my previous post. But I think that’s getting a tad too complicated for my blood. I’ll do some research on the preseason polls vs. final rankings.

      By the way, I found this information on a Google question, or something. A person asked who had more all-time wins – Notre Dame or USC. LOL! It’s not even close! I love that they asked that question, so that it could be point out that it would take USC going undefeated and Notre Dame going winless for roughly FIVE YEARS for USC to catch them. That’s a kick in the junk.

      Austin Swafford

      September 30, 2009 at 1:52 am

  3. […] A name goes a long way « College Football Talk […]

  4. Whats in a name? Well in college football its quite a bit… in every respect. Recruiting, merchandise sales, and RANKINGS. teams like LSU (well all SEC teams really) USC, and yes: TEXAS – get props because regardless of wins and style points, they are more talented and gifted than the BCS busters. Overachievers Vs Underachievers.

    I am trying to find some data yall would be interested in concerning where teams started the season ranked and where they finished and thier margins… its good data to compare under and over ranked teams.

    Ill get back to yall when I find it


    September 30, 2009 at 10:54 am

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